Podcast: There’s No Perfect Path to Leadership

Podcast: There’s No Perfect Path to Leadership

Amber Mathiesen
City Manager
Mt. Angel, OR
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AJ Fawver
Planning Director
Amarillo, TX
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The career ladder is becoming more of a career jungle gym, there’s no one path to leadership in local government. To talk about a couple of non-traditional career paths Kirsten chatted with Amber Mathiesen, City Manager of Mt. Angel, OR, and AJ Fawver, Planning Director of Amarillo, TX. They shared how their backgrounds in records and planning prepared them for leadership positions.



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One comment on “Podcast: There’s No Perfect Path to Leadership

  • Henry Boyd IV says:

    This was a very informative podcast. I loved the quote “lead from any level”. I will be sure to carry that message with me in local gov’t. Keep up the great work!

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